Curse

Rayk · Jun 12, 2008, 12:57 AM // 00:57

I have a monk that I use for PvE purposes. I think the build is kinda lame but I just started back up GW again and I need some suggestions as to what i should add/take out of this build for it to be more efficient.

[Mo/Me]
16 Healing Prayers
11 Divine Favor
4 Protection Prayers

Skill bar:
Jamei's Gaze
Orison of Healing
Healing Breeze
Word of Healing
Reversal of Fortune
Healing Touch
Heal Party
Rebirth

I feel as if i do OK in PvE, but i feel I could do better. Any suggestions?

MagmaRed · Jun 12, 2008, 01:32 AM // 01:32

For a hybrid build, I'd run 11-10-10, not 12-11-6. And Reversal of Fortune is basically a heal, I'd pick something different. Just a suggestion for a few changes:

11 (+1 head armor, +any rune) Healing Prayers
10 (+1 Minor Rune) Protection Prayers
10 (+1 Minor Rune) Divine Favor

[word of healing][orison of healing][guardian][protective spirit][dismiss condition][cure hex][signet of rejuvenation][heal party]

That uses no Mesmer skills, just Monk skills. No rez, but if you feel a need for a rez, take one over Heal Party. If you don't have Nightfall and/or GW:EN, take any condition/hex removal skill you have access to.

You had 3 spells that cost 10 energy or more, and no way to manage your energy. Jamei's Gaze and Healing Breeze are easily spammed, and will drain your energy fast. You have nothing but direct heals, and 1 regen spell. Conditions and hexes will make you spam those high energy cost spells, and cause you serious problems. Imagine facing Daze and hexes like Migraine with no ability to remove them.

Lastly, I'm going to guess you either remember the attributes wrong, or you didn't complete the 15 attribute point quests yet. I'm guessing you have 12+1+3, 10+1, and 3+1. You should be able to get 12+1+3, 10+1, and 8+1 if you have all the attribute points.

Mesmer in Need · Jun 12, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33

First off, don't run a sup rune. An additional ~10 healing isn't worth -75 health.
Jamei's is kind of energy intensive, however a big prot like Spirit Bond or PS is good- it will generally do more good then 1 big heal, which will probably end up over healing anyways.
I would switch out Orison with Dwaynas kiss, it will potentially heal for more and only has 1 second more recharge.
Healing breeze is another energy strain, plus its really not that good.
Healing touch can be a decent self heal, but it is lacking. Heal party is more suited to a HB bar, for the better bigger party heals, and the shorter cast time. If you want other options for a party heal, either run LoD or a N/Rt with PwK
I run something like this for my monk pve.
[Patient spirit]/[dwayna's kiss][reversal of fortune][woh][guardian][dismiss condition][remove hex]/[holy veil][protective spirit]/[spirit bond]rez

Rayk · Jun 12, 2008, 03:40 AM // 03:40

As it turns out, I only have 185 attribute points. I guess I did one of the quests but not the other. This was a very long time ago, so can someone tell me where those quests are located again?

scythefromunder · Jun 12, 2008, 03:45 AM // 03:45

Sup runes on a monk is a nono for me.
If you are going [Word of Healing], id suggest you go hybrid.

joshuarodger · Jun 12, 2008, 03:48 AM // 03:48

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Originally Posted by scythefromunder

Sup runes on a monk is a nono for me.
If you are going [Word of Healing], id suggest you go hybrid.

you listened.

joshuarodger · Jun 12, 2008, 03:55 AM // 03:55

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Originally Posted by Rayk

As it turns out, I only have 185 attribute points. I guess I did one of the quests but not the other. This was a very long time ago, so can someone tell me where those quests are located again?

which campaign did you start in?

Rayk · Jun 12, 2008, 04:06 AM // 04:06

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Originally Posted by joshuarodger

which campaign did you start in?

started in propechies

scythefromunder · Jun 12, 2008, 04:22 AM // 04:22

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Originally Posted by Rayk

started in propechies

You will have to do 2 quests to get the 30 extra attribute
which are :
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forgotten_Wisdom
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hero%27s_Challenge

Melody Cross · Jun 12, 2008, 05:38 AM // 05:38

You don't really need jamai's. Or Touch. Take them out and put in DKiss and cure hex. I don't use Breeze in Pve or straight heal builds, but thats because I prefer the HoT Vigorous Spirit can put out now. For the price, its very nice.

If you're going to go hybrid, take Prot Spirit for NM and H/H or Spirit Bond for HM and team play (*cough* Ursans). if you prefer to straight heal (most new monks do) then you can still run a pretty good bar. Spotless Mind and Soul are good skills and synergize with DKiss on your frontline...and they can actually be pretty good removals for people learning how to monk. You can get them really quick if you have EotN. If you can't get them, Mend Aliment and Veil will start you on your way. A small investment in MendA will grant you some pretty wicked heals against condition heavy mobs.

With all the healing you get out of a straight healing build, you'll soon notice that you don't need heal party. You can replace it with Divine Healing once you feel comfortable enough. But its fine for a crutch in these early stages, and a good skill in the later missions. A good rule of thumb for using it is to never use it unless at least 3 people need it; this will begin you on a road to efficient monking, with hybrid builds et al following after.

GGs

MasterSasori · Jun 12, 2008, 08:34 AM // 08:34

[Patient spirit][dwayna's kiss][signet of rejuvenation] to replace healing breeze, orison of healing, and heal party.

Squishy ftw · Jun 12, 2008, 10:35 AM // 10:35

Where's [aegis] ?

I'd go hybrid and make sure to add [aegis] to that bar, along with some of the other suggestions that are already made.(like MasterSasori's)

joshuarodger · Jun 12, 2008, 03:27 PM // 15:27

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Originally Posted by Squishy ftw

Where's [aegis] ?

I'd go hybrid and make sure to add [aegis] to that bar, along with some of the other suggestions that are already made.(like MasterSasori's)

QFT. aegis is one of the best skills in PvE. you should also put it on a hero when you go so you can chain it.

scythefromunder · Jun 12, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by joshuarodger

QFT. aegis is one of the best skills in PvE. you should also put it on a hero when you go so you can chain it.

dont forget to disable it if you do put it on a hero

horseradish · Jun 12, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

They actually use it fairly well...for me at least. The 30 sec recharge prevents spamminess as well.

AscalonWarrior · Jun 13, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52

I'm using this build atm

[build prof=Mo name="Healprot Hybrid" box Protectionprayers=11+1 Healingprayers=10+1+2 Divinefavor=10+2][Word of healing][cure hex][reversal of fortune][shield of absorption][dwayna's kiss][Guardian][dismiss condition][aegis][/build]

And it works great

Bauholz Kerbe · Jun 16, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11

[QUOTE=AscalonWarrior]I'm using this build atm

[build prof=Mo name="Healprot Hybrid" box Protectionprayers=11+1 Healingprayers=10+1+2 Divinefavor=10+2][Word of healing][cure hex][reversal of fortune][shield of absorption][dwayna's kiss][Guardian][dismiss condition][aegis][/build]

I don't see the need for gaurdian and aegis, escpecially if your chaining it with a hero.